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	The '''doorman fallacy''' is a [[Category mistake\|category error]] in which a complex human role is reduced to a function, leading to the assumption that it can be replaced with a cost-effective automated substitute without loss of value, with decision-makers failing to understand the indirect, intangible, non-visible value they provide.<ref>{{cite news \|last1=Lipnickas \|first1=Gediminas \|date=3 November 2025 \|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily \|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380 \|access-date=20 June 2026 \|work=The Conversation}}</ref>		The '''doorman fallacy''' is a [[Category mistake\|category error]] in which a complex human role is reduced to a function, leading to the assumption that it can be replaced with a cost-effective automated substitute without loss of value, with decision-makers failing to understand the indirect, intangible, non-visible value they provide.<ref>{{cite news \|last1=Lipnickas \|first1=Gediminas \|date=3 November 2025 \|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily \|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380 \|access-date=20 June 2026 \|work=The Conversation}}</ref>

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	The '''doorman fallacy''' is a [[Category mistake\|category error]] in which a complex human role is reduced to a function, leading to the assumption that it can be replaced with a cost-effective automated substitute without loss of value, with decision-makers failing to understand the indirect, intangible, non-visible value they provide.<ref>{{cite news \|last1=Lipnickas \|first1=Gediminas \|date=3 November 2025 \|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily \|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380 \|access-date=20 June 2026 \|work=The Conversation}}</ref>		The '''doorman fallacy''' is a [[Category mistake\|category error]] in which a complex human role is reduced to a function, leading to the assumption that it can be replaced with a cost-effective automated substitute without loss of value, with decision-makers failing to understand the indirect, intangible, non-visible value they provide.<ref>{{cite news \|last1=Lipnickas \|first1=Gediminas \|date=3 November 2025 \|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily \|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380 \|access-date=20 June 2026 \|work=The Conversation}}</ref>

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+The concept is closely related to ideas in [[behavioral economics]] and [[Signalling (economics)|signaling theory]], particularly the distinction between observable tasks and latent value creation.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-07-21 |title=The Doorman. The Magic Starts Here. Charles Leon |url=https://www.charlesleon.uk/blog/the-doorman-where-the-magic-starts |access-date=2026-07-04 |website=Charles Leon |language=en-US}}</ref>
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	== Origin ==		== Origin ==
	The term "doorman fallacy" was coined and popularized by [[Rory Sutherland (advertising executive)\|Rory Sutherland]] in his 2019 book ''Alchemy''. ''The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don’t Make Sense.<ref name="alchemy">{{Cite book \|last=Sutherland \|first=Rory \|title=Alchemy : the surprising power of ideas that don't make sense \|date=2019 \|isbn=978-0-7535-5137-0 \|location=London \|oclc=1091689287}}</ref>''		The term "doorman fallacy" was coined and popularized by [[Rory Sutherland (advertising executive)\|Rory Sutherland]] in his 2019 book ''Alchemy:'' ''The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don’t Make Sense.<ref name="alchemy">{{Cite book \|last=Sutherland \|first=Rory \|title=Alchemy : the surprising power of ideas that don't make sense \|date=2019 \|isbn=978-0-7535-5137-0 \|location=London \|oclc=1091689287}}</ref>''

	The term "[[Doorman (profession)\|doorman]]" refers to the role of a hotel doorman, which is mistakenly assumed to be solely for opening doors. The hotel replaces the doorman with an automated door system as a cost-saving measure. However, they fail to realize the indirect functions such as the following:		The term "[[Doorman (profession)\|doorman]]" refers to the role of a hotel doorman, which is mistakenly assumed to be solely for opening doors. The hotel replaces the doorman with an automated door system as a cost-saving measure. However, they fail to realize the indirect functions such as the following:

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	Recent discussions have extended the concept of the doorman fallacy to generative AI's replacement of white-collar and customer service roles.<ref name=conversation />		Recent discussions have extended the concept of the doorman fallacy to generative AI's replacement of white-collar and customer service roles.<ref name=conversation />

	In 2025, the [[Commonwealth Bank\|Commonwealth Bank of Australia]] laid 45 customer service staff off, replacing them with an automated AI voice bot. The bank reversed its decision amid pressure from a workers' union, admitting it "did not adequately consider all relevant business considerations and this error meant the roles were not redundant".<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Subin \|first=Samantha \|date=2025-10-22 \|title=AI is already taking white-collar jobs. Economists warn there's 'much more in the tank' \|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/ai-taking-white-collar-jobs-economists-warn-much-more-in-the-tank.html \|access-date=2026-06-24 \|website=CNBC \|language=en}}</ref><ref name=conversation>{{cite web\|first1=Gediminas\|last1=Lipnickas\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily\|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380\|date=3 November 2025\|website=The Conversation}}</ref> Robert Wachter, ~~head of medicine~~ at the University of California, described the idea that AI could replace doctors an example of the fallacy.<ref>{{cite web\|first1=Frank\|last1=Landymore\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=American Medical Association Fires Back Against Paper Finding AI Is Now Outperforming Doctors\|url=https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/american-medical-association-fires-back-ai-doctors\|date=4 September 2026}}</ref>		In 2025, the [[Commonwealth Bank\|Commonwealth Bank of Australia]] laid 45 customer service staff off, replacing them with an automated AI voice bot. The bank reversed its decision amid pressure from a workers' union, admitting it "did not adequately consider all relevant business considerations and this error meant the roles were not redundant".<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Subin \|first=Samantha \|date=2025-10-22 \|title=AI is already taking white-collar jobs. Economists warn there's 'much more in the tank' \|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/ai-taking-white-collar-jobs-economists-warn-much-more-in-the-tank.html \|access-date=2026-06-24 \|website=CNBC \|language=en}}</ref><ref name=conversation>{{cite web\|first1=Gediminas\|last1=Lipnickas\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily\|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380\|date=3 November 2025\|website=The Conversation}}</ref> [[Robert M. Wachter]], Chair in Hospital Medicine at the [[University of California, San Francisco]], described the idea that AI could replace doctors an example of the fallacy.<ref>{{cite web\|first1=Frank\|last1=Landymore\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=American Medical Association Fires Back Against Paper Finding AI Is Now Outperforming Doctors\|url=https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/american-medical-association-fires-back-ai-doctors\|date=4 September 2026}}</ref>

	== See also ==		== See also ==

~2026-51613-13: /* Origin */ it's ironic that an article about how AIs can't replace humans has a colon mistake associated with AIs. All style guides indicate that colons end main clauses. It makes no sense to put a colon in the middle of a clause, but AIs do that all the time.

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Origin: it's ironic that an article about how AIs can't replace humans has a colon mistake associated with AIs. All style guides indicate that colons end main clauses. It makes no sense to put a colon in the middle of a clause, but AIs do that all the time.

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	The term "doorman fallacy" was coined and popularized by [[Rory Sutherland (advertising executive)\|Rory Sutherland]] in his 2019 book ''Alchemy''. ''The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don’t Make Sense.<ref name="alchemy">{{Cite book \|last=Sutherland \|first=Rory \|title=Alchemy : the surprising power of ideas that don't make sense \|date=2019 \|isbn=978-0-7535-5137-0 \|location=London \|oclc=1091689287}}</ref>''		The term "doorman fallacy" was coined and popularized by [[Rory Sutherland (advertising executive)\|Rory Sutherland]] in his 2019 book ''Alchemy''. ''The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don’t Make Sense.<ref name="alchemy">{{Cite book \|last=Sutherland \|first=Rory \|title=Alchemy : the surprising power of ideas that don't make sense \|date=2019 \|isbn=978-0-7535-5137-0 \|location=London \|oclc=1091689287}}</ref>''

	The term "[[Doorman (profession)\|doorman]]" refers to the role of a hotel doorman, which is mistakenly assumed to be solely for opening doors. The hotel replaces the doorman with an automated door system as a cost-saving measure. However, they fail to realize the indirect functions ~~like~~:		The term "[[Doorman (profession)\|doorman]]" refers to the role of a hotel doorman, which is mistakenly assumed to be solely for opening doors. The hotel replaces the doorman with an automated door system as a cost-saving measure. However, they fail to realize the indirect functions such as the following:

	* Guest recognition and assistance		* Guest recognition and assistance

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Use in AI: delete unnecessary colon

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	Recent discussions have extended the concept of the doorman fallacy to generative AI's replacement of white-collar and customer service roles.<ref name=conversation />		Recent discussions have extended the concept of the doorman fallacy to generative AI's replacement of white-collar and customer service roles.<ref name=conversation />

	In 2025, the [[Commonwealth Bank\|Commonwealth Bank of Australia]] laid 45 customer service staff off, replacing them with an automated AI voice bot. The bank reversed its decision amid pressure from a workers' union, admitting it: "did not adequately consider all relevant business considerations and this error meant the roles were not redundant".<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Subin \|first=Samantha \|date=2025-10-22 \|title=AI is already taking white-collar jobs. Economists warn there's 'much more in the tank' \|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/ai-taking-white-collar-jobs-economists-warn-much-more-in-the-tank.html \|access-date=2026-06-24 \|website=CNBC \|language=en}}</ref><ref name=conversation>{{cite web\|first1=Gediminas\|last1=Lipnickas\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily\|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380\|date=3 November 2025\|website=The Conversation}}</ref> Robert Wachter, head of medicine at the University of California, described the idea that AI could replace doctors an example of the fallacy.<ref>{{cite web\|first1=Frank\|last1=Landymore\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=American Medical Association Fires Back Against Paper Finding AI Is Now Outperforming Doctors\|url=https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/american-medical-association-fires-back-ai-doctors\|date=4 September 2026}}</ref>		In 2025, the [[Commonwealth Bank\|Commonwealth Bank of Australia]] laid 45 customer service staff off, replacing them with an automated AI voice bot. The bank reversed its decision amid pressure from a workers' union, admitting it "did not adequately consider all relevant business considerations and this error meant the roles were not redundant".<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Subin \|first=Samantha \|date=2025-10-22 \|title=AI is already taking white-collar jobs. Economists warn there's 'much more in the tank' \|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/ai-taking-white-collar-jobs-economists-warn-much-more-in-the-tank.html \|access-date=2026-06-24 \|website=CNBC \|language=en}}</ref><ref name=conversation>{{cite web\|first1=Gediminas\|last1=Lipnickas\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=The ‘doorman fallacy’: why careless adoption of AI backfires so easily\|url=https://theconversation.com/the-doorman-fallacy-why-careless-adoption-of-ai-backfires-so-easily-268380\|date=3 November 2025\|website=The Conversation}}</ref> Robert Wachter, head of medicine at the University of California, described the idea that AI could replace doctors an example of the fallacy.<ref>{{cite web\|first1=Frank\|last1=Landymore\|accessdate=2026-09-25\|title=American Medical Association Fires Back Against Paper Finding AI Is Now Outperforming Doctors\|url=https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/american-medical-association-fires-back-ai-doctors\|date=4 September 2026}}</ref>

	== See also ==		== See also ==